GirlsFromMainStreet: Sunday, March 8 is the Women's Day. What symbolic values ​​do you associate with him? What does it represent to you?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: This is an opportunity to awaken a number of topics that we would like to see more alive throughout the year, and that can be relaunched on the occasion of the Women's day equal pay, the education of girls, especially in developing countries, conjugal violence, all these subjects which should be subjects of daily mobilization but which find a particular relief on the occasion of the Women's day, It's certain.

This year, the theme of Women's Day is "Equality, Parity, Reality", what do you think is the fight that remains to be done to achieve this goal?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: For me the fight is a lot of the quality of what is offered to one or the other. The term equality, like the term parity, is sometimes a bit of a misleading ground because we think in quantitative terms, we think in terms of numbers, how many women there are here or there, but I want to ask the question of the quality of what is proposed to them too. For example, I speak in politics, and there has been a lot of questioning about the number of women in politics. Finally, it is not only the question of numbers, there are positions of power and positions that are not positions of power in the political milieu.

When you are in a city, when you are in a city hall, you have positions that are more or less important. When you are in an executive, when you are in a territorial community, you have positions that are more or less important. We did parity for example in the Regional Councils, yes, we made parity in the Council, but then in the executives and in the importance of the representation on the truly decision-making positions of the regional executives, it is not the same thing. So maybe it would be my center of interest a little bit particular, that is to say not only must we reason in terms of numbers but we must also see what is behind the numbers.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: You spoke of parity in the government. We know that Nicolas Sarkozy wanted it at the time of the constitution of his government. In practice, are there differences between a politician and a politician?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: In the behavior you mean?

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: Yes, in behavior, communication ...

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: I do not like the discourse on the difference between politicians and women politicians, and the differences between men and women in general, because the problem is that we start by telling you that you are different, that women are more this, men are more that ... you know, women come from Venus, men come from Mars, and then after we explain to you - it's to make you swallow the pill in general - that as you are different, you are so much more formidable, since you are a woman, you are no longer this, plus that, and so we will rather entrust you with that, and you end up at nurseries, family life, it is is very interesting but we are not necessarily all done for that.

I find that there is sometimes a little perversity, there is something sometimes a little tendentious that hides behind the discourse on difference. We explain that men and women are different, women have so much more quality, that suddenly we will do something different as a proposal, and at that moment we lock you up. The speech about the difference, it can be a prison. Now, I am for the liberation of women, and I find that these are freedoms that are to be won every day and that the discourse on difference does not necessarily lead to it.

That said, it is true that there are in practice despite all the tendencies that are expressed, which for me are related to the fact that at certain ages of life, women have much more brutal arbitrations to to do between professional life, family life and personal life. This is especially true when you are in politics, where it happens in the evenings and weekends.There are really very brutal arbitrations with personal life and therefore women are less prone to the vanity of the little things in public life, spending hours in meetings that are not necessarily of much use. In politics, they tend to have a certain age to pick up faster, when they have to hang on, because spending all their weekends on markets, or in endless meetings when there are children waiting at school. home, what is it hard?

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: Is there a form of solidarity between women in government? How does she express herself?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: There may be some form of intimacy on topics where women can talk to each other more easily but in a human assembly of 12, 15, 30, 40 people, there are mostly affinities that lead you to this or that woman or this or that man, and not necessarily between women among themselves or between men. I do not really believe in systematic solidarity between women. Sometimes, there is a kind of intimacy, exchange that is created more easily but it is rarely a general rule, a kind of gender rule.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: What political woman do you admire most today in the history of French politics?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: You know, the problem for a woman who does politics is that there are so few women in politics, there is not really a very big choice, a very large panel, there are the figures always, the figure of Simone Veil, people like that, but there is not a very very large panel like men have. You understand, for example, politicians, they all like to write books about such a politician, it's a sort of initiatory journey and founder in the politician, we write a book about a politician, which is a way to show its roots in history, its roots, to suggest a model or a distant echo.

Political women, you do not have much filiation possible. You can fetch Mary Stuart and Catherine from Russia, in the kind a bit bloody, and then it stops quickly. It remains to be invented at the same time, it is a beautiful challenge! I also take it as a challenge, and then anyway, we do not have to ask the question, it's like that ...

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: We embody the modern woman: Secretary of State, Mayor, Mom, Wife ...

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: You do not have to be a Secretary of State to be modern, otherwise there are not many! Everyone has an opportunity to be modern, I say it loud and clear!

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: What does your day look like?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: I have a child, who is young, so I think it's quite different when you have older children. When they are small, they have very organized life rhythms. Mine for example, I organize myself to take him to school in the morning. From time to time, I can not do it, when there are programs very early, like the morning or things like that, but I limit the number actually to be able to take him to school in the morning, and I organize myself in my agenda in general to have a free niche between 19H30 and 20H30 or 20H and 21H to be able to sleep and see it in the evening. So for example, when I accept diners in general, I ask e they are at 21H, or I arrive late on any pretext and it is in general that I went to sleep my son. I think it's less easy paradoxically with older people who have a rhythm of life less rigged and it's not very simple. And then at weekends I created rituals that I think are important for a child, for example I usually take my child on Saturday morning to the market, he knows all the traders in the market and it's a moment important, it's a moment that he expects, there are some rituals of this kind that are important.

According to a CSA poll on behalf of the Halde published in February 2009, 34% of women feel they have been discriminated against in their workplace and 23% say they have been interviewed about their family projects during an interview hiring. What reaction does this survey make to you? What would you like to send as a message to the French bosses?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: There is a message to convey to the bosses and there is a message to convey to the women. The message to pass to the bosses is that it is a real wealth. I see him as Mayor. I am Mayor of a city of 22 000 inhabitants, Lonjumeau, in which you question me today, it's true that in a municipality it's complicated to manage parental leave, pregnancies, all that, it's is complicated to manage but at the same time, diversity in an organization is a real wealth, it makes the organization much more creative.When you have only men or women, you do not have the same creativity, you do not have the same stimulation. And for a woman, and for a man too, to have a family life, to have a balanced life, it's also a look at the world maybe a little different that we bring into the community and that participates in the balance of the whole. So it's true that it poses organizational problems, but in the face of organizational problems, we must also put all the benefits that this has in terms of quality, richness of relationship, density of the relationship. Have people who have a family life that is rich, who is dense, who is happy, well that's a chance in an organization. I think it must be said to the bosses, the bosses must be sensitive to it.

I remember when Jean-Pierre Raffarin was prime minister, he said, I think he said that about his communications officer, he had a communication officer who was a woman, he had a chief from a Cabinet that was a woman, he had a lot of women on his team, and he said that it was women who had many children and that it had been a good impression when recruiting them and that he thought that a woman who knew how to organize her life as well as organize her family life, and to work so much with all that, it was really someone who had a superior talent, there is that to see too. A woman who succeeds in doing all this is someone who has displayed a wealth of inventiveness.

Then, on this subject, there are also things to say to girls, is that there is no obligation to answer the intrusive questions that are asked about family life during a conversation. 'hiring. For example, when you ask in a job interview whether you are pregnant, no obligation to answer, no obligation to answer, you can lie, you have the right to lie because in fact we do not have the right to ask the question normally. We do not have the right to ask that question. And so there is absolutely no obligation to tell the truth. So it is true that it is difficult to start a professional relationship on this basis but it's really up to everyone, to the girls to know their rights, and then to the bosses to progress a little bit in the understanding of what are also the wealth that is behind it.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: For the woman, it is perhaps also free from guilt compared to his employer ...

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: Wait, the number of situations in which - and I know, I have friends who have been in those situations - the bosses who terrorized their employees because they did not want them to become pregnant and that they put the pressure on it, and during that time their wives were 2, 3, 4 children, what's up! It's okay, stop! The wage is not slavery either! And I will tell you another thing: it is a very great wealth of our society to have children and to have so many children. We have a very good fertility rate.

I was traveling in Korea and Japan. In Japan, they did not talk about the crisis, they talked about the demographic and social crisis. Their problem is not the economic crisis, their problem is that they have a rate of 1.3 children per woman. At present they are 120 million, in 50 years they will be 80 million, in 100 years they will be 40 million. All their robotics, all their digital industry is oriented to that, because they do not want immigration, so they organize themselves especially in terms of robotics to be able to serve the elderly, because they have a problem of age pyramids. Their problem of age pyramid, it comes from the fact that women do not have children, and it is not that they work a lot, they work little, and precisely they have no financial independence, and that do not bring them to children. It's a real problem in their society and we do not realize how lucky we are, we're lucky because there are women who have the courage to face family life head-on. and work, it must be said.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: We will talk about the actions that are carried out to defend the rights of women, I think in particular of "All at school" with the Rose Marie-Claire or the Care association in Benin. Do you support a particular cause, there is one that is important to you ?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: All at school for example, I think it's a very nice project, I went to dinner they had done to revive this year their operation. I think it's a project I really believe in.The education of girls is where development happens, and all development, economic development, family development, development of society, it goes through the education of girls. I think we could do more and better on that.

I add that we must not believe that it happens that in the countries of the South, it happens in a certain way also at home. Through certain stereotypes, which remain applied and very alive in the education of girls. I see it on digital issues, all that is computer science, there are very few girls, there are really very few girls. I think it's a problem. The digital industry, it has a growth rate, it participates for 25% of global growth, soon it will be 30% of global growth. You will have 1/3 of the global growth that will be in the industry in which there are very few women and in the name of what? Why ?

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: To stay on this chapter of the new technologies of information and communication, it is a relay of growth, you underlined it, how do you intend to democratize with women these computer tools? Or open engineering or webmaster training, all these new professions that have appeared?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: I think it goes through a speech and actions in terms of uses and content. I observe that men often have a more technophile approach, it is "oh the camera, what is beautiful" or "there are many features" and women have a step which is more centered on uses and contents. It seems to me that by carrying a speech which also goes more strongly on the uses and the contents, one succeeds in capturing this public better.

I am also thinking about developing some uses and some content that may be more directly aimed at women, such as teleworking. There is currently a very interesting bill on the bureau of the Assembly and carried by about sixty deputies, it is a proposal of Jean-Pierre Decoole to develop telework, a bill that has been discussed with the unions, which would both improve the legislative and regulatory framework, and encourage teleworking equipment, it is both good for the environment, but it is also good for the organization of life, it brings a certain freedom, it brings new degrees of freedom. But we are in France I believe 7% of people who report teleworking once a week. The Scandinavian countries are certain to 30%, it is not normal ... there is no reason for this difference, it should even be a difference in the other direction since France, it is a country less dense, so naturally telework is even more interesting here than at home. So the development of uses like this ...

It's the same for the development of the e-administration, the online administration, the possibility you see to make all his papers online. For a woman who works, it's important, because what does it eat like time! Safety sheets, children, registration ... these are features that partly exist on servicepublic.fr, su monservicepublic.fr which now allows you to have your personal digital safe on which you have everything you have sent to the administration, all your papers, so instead of tidying up in your small files, you have just like that ... and then there are also new features to develop but for the most part it requires advancing on authentication and signing on the Internet because in fact currently, on the classic Internet sites, the site of my city for example, you can download forms, and after you send them by La Poste, it's not really of the e-administration. The only things you can really do online is, for example, declare your income, with the TDIR certificate, but you had to develop an ad-hoc certificate, so to really develop all these applications there, you have to have a system unique authentication signature online and at that time we can imagine send his recommended from his computer, make all his statements, his orders, both in the direction of the public sector than private, really use the computer for that and not just for a kind of fake e-administration where you download a form that you send back elsewhere.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: More generally, new technologies as growth drivers, could you tell us a little more? What is your analysis in this time of crisis?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: New technologies, 25% of global growth, soon 30%, and what is interesting is that it is a growth not only autonomous, within the sector, the new technologies are a sector in growth, but also the growth of this sector diffuses competitiveness through other sectors of the economy. It is thought that there is under-investment in small and medium-sized enterprises in France in new technologies compared to what is happening in the United States. It has been several years since French SMEs invest 2 times less than US SMEs in new technologies. We think it cost us 0.5 percentage points of GDP because new technology is both a growing sector in itself, but it is also a sector that is growing others. And that's what we aim to catch up with all the policies that are put in place, and especially with the Digital France 2012 plan, 156 measures to implement, that we implement gradually, the most quickly to be able to catch up ... this delay, I mean, we are not late on everything, there are topics we are ahead of but we can do better. On networks, having really fast now broadband for everyone, and developing very high speed with fiber optics, release the investments on it. On companies, so that the sector is truly a place of transformation of innovation in growth, because it is useless to innovate if we do not grow and that is the companies that do it and then uses, contents. I was very impressed during my trip to Korea by a discussion I had with the boss of Samsung who told me we are very good we Samsung, we Korean on equipment, phone, video, the mobile phone, the TV, all that ... and at the same time, we feel we are not well positioned for the new digital adventure that opens because the equipment market is saturated, we will continue to sell, there will always be new screens, new features but the market is saturated, we think that the value will rather migrate to uses and content. Well it's great, because we equip them, we do not manufacture them a lot, but then the uses and the contents, here, we have rather things to sell on it and so I did not show too much my enthusiasm when he told me that obviously because he lived it as a problem but I saw a solution for me, for us, for the industry sector in France. I think we have a shot in fact in this 2nd age of digital that opens.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: Exactly, does the government intend to implement help from new companies that could be created around these contents?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: There are a number of things that exist, such as the status of the auto-entrepreneur that was started by my colleague Hervé Novelli. It is very very much in demand by companies that are being created in the digital sector. There are many many self-businesses, especially in online commerce. There is the young innovative company, there are all the OSEO helpers and then there are reflections to go further that are reflections in progress so I can not make any announcement on this subject today.

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: Last question on your glamorous image: do you work it? Beauty secrets?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet: You ask me if I put a cream in the evening? I have my coquetry, like everyone else, I wear my hair in the morning, I wear makeup and I pay attention to what I look like! Now, I do not over invest on the subject because I do not have a lot of time either. You know, we always say, "Oh, if I had time" so me if I had time, I'd like to take care of myself a little more, all that, do this, do that, and and in fact, first, we never have time, and maybe if we had time we would be terribly bored and anyway it's like that!

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: Can we say today that you are an accomplished woman?

Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet : I'm a happy woman anyway, I like what I do ... accomplished, it's a quest!

GirlsFromMainStreet.com: Thank you very much

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